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EId Millad un Nabi (SAWW)
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I congratulate all on this special occasion of Eid Millad un Nabi
You Live Only Twice, So Utilize It Carefully
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Eid Milad-un-Nabi SAW sab ko Mubarak ho.
Dheerey Dheerey Machal Oooooo Jia beQaraar koi Aaya haiiii koi aaya haiiiii......... Nahi aaya naa koi 
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Ruling on celebrating the birthday of the Prophet

Praise be to Allaah the Lord of the Worlds, and blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and all his family and companions.

The commands mentioned in the Qur’aan and Sunnah to follow the laws of Allaah and His Messenger, and the prohibitions on introducing innovations into the religion are quite clear. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad to mankind): ‘If you (really) love Allaah, then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Qur’aan and the Sunnah), Allaah will love you and forgive you your sins’”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:31]

“Follow what has been sent down unto you from your Lord (the Qur’aan and Prophet Muhammad’s Sunnah), and follow not any Awliyaa’ (protectors and helpers who order you to associate partners in worship with Allaah), besides Him (Allaah). Little do you remember!”

[al-A’raaf 7:3]

“And verily, this is My straight path, so follow it, and follow not (other) paths, for they will separate you away from His path”

[al-A’naam 6:153]

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The most truthful of speech is the Book of Allaah and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad, and the most evil of things are those which are newly-invented.” And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever innovates anything in this matter of ours (i.e., Islam), that is not part of it will have it rejected.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 2697; Muslim, no. 1718). According to a version narrated by Muslim, “Whoever doe anything that is not in accordance with this matter of ours (i.e., Islam), will have it rejected.”

Among the reprehensible innovations that people have invented is the celebration of the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in the month of Rabee’ al-Awwal. They celebrate this occasion in various ways:

Some of them simply make it an occasion to gather and read the story of the Mawlid, then they present speeches and qaseedahs (odes) for this occasion.

Some of them make food and sweets etc., and offer them to the people present.

Some of them hold these celebrations in the mosques, and some of them hold them in their houses.

Some people do not limit themselves to the actions mentioned above; they include in these gatherings haraam and reprehensible things, such as free mixing of men and women, dancing and singing, or committing actions of shirk such as seeking the help of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), calling upon him, seeking his support against their enemies and so on.

Whatever form it takes and whatever the intentions of those who do this are, there is no doubt whatsoever that it is an invented, haraam innovation which was introduced by the Shi’a Faatimids after the three best centuries, in order to corrupt the religion of the Muslims. The first person to do this after them was the king al-Muzaffar Abu Sa’eed Kawkaboori, the king of Irbil, at the end of the sixth century or the beginning of the seventh century AH, as was mentioned by the historians such as Ibn Khalkaan and others. Abu Shaamah said: the first person to do that in Mosul was Shaykh ‘Umar ibn Muhammad al-Malaa, one of the well-known righteous people. Then the ruler of Irbil and others followed his example.

Al-Haafiz Ibn Katheer said in al-Bidaayah wa’l-Nihaayah (13/137), in his biography of Abu Sa’eed Kazkaboori: “He used to observe the Mawlid in Rabee’ al-Awwal and hold a huge celebration on that occasion… some of those who were present at the feast of al-Muzaffar on some occasions of the Mawlid said that he used to offer in the feast five thousand grilled heads of sheep, ten thousand chickens and one hundred thousand large dishes, and thirty trays of sweets… he would let the Sufis sing from Zuhr until Fajr, and he himself would dance with them.”

Ibn Khalkaan said in Wafiyaat al-A’yaan (3/274): “When it is the first of Safar they decorate those domes with various kinds of fancy adornments, and in every dome there sits a group of singers and a group of puppeteers and players of musical instruments, and they do not leave any one of those domes without setting up a group (of performers) there.

The people give up work during this period, and they do no work except going around and watching the entertainment. When there are two days to go until the Mawlid, they bring out a large number of camels, cows and sheep, more than can be described, and they accompany them with all the drums, songs and musical instruments that they have, until they bring them to the square… On the night of the Mawlid there are performances of nasheed after Maghrib in the citadel.”

This is the origin of this celebration on the occasion of the Prophet’s birthday. More recently idle entertainment, extravagance, and wasting of money and time have become associated with an innovation for which Allaah has not sent down any authority.

What Muslims should do is to revive the Sunnah and put an end to bid’ah (innovation); they should not do any action until they know the ruling of Allaah concerning it.
Ruling on celebrating the Prophet’s birthday

Celebrating the occasion of the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is forbidden and is to be rejected for a number of reasons:

1 – it is not part of the Sunnah of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or of the khaleefahs who succeeded him. Since this is the case, then it is a forbidden innovation, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I urge you to follow my Sunnah and the way of the rightly-guided khaleefahs after me; adhere to it and cling to it firmly. Beware of newly-invented things, for every newly-invented thing is an innovation (bid’ah) and every innovation is a going-astray.” (Narrated by Ahmad, 4/126; al-Tirmidhi no. 2676).

Celebrating the Mawlid is an innovation introduced by the Shi’a Faatimids after the three best centuries in order to corrupt the religion of the Muslims. If a person does anything in order to draw closer to Allaah which was not done by the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or enjoined by him, and was not done by the khaleefahs who succeeded him, this action implies that he is accusing the Messenger of not explaining the religion to the people, and that he disbelieves in the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):

“This day, I have perfected your religion for you”

[al-Maa'idah 5:3]

because he is adding something extra and claiming that it is a part of the religion, but the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not bring this.

2 – Celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is an imitation of the Christians, because they celebrate the birth of the Messiah (peace be upon him). Imitating them is extremely haraam. The hadeeth tells us that it is forbidden to imitate the kuffaar, and we are commanded to differ from them. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them” (narrated by Ahmad, 2/50; Abu Dawood, 4/314). And he said, “Be different from the mushrikeen” (narrated by Muslim, 1/222, no. 259) – especially with regard to things that are the symbols or rituals of their religion.

3 – Besides being bid’ah and an imitation of the Christians, both of which are haraam, celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is also a means that leads to exaggeration and excess in venerating him, which even goes as far as calling upon him (making du’aa’ to him) and seeking his help, instead of calling upon Allaah, as happens now among many of those who observe the bid’ah of the Mawlid, when they call upon the Messenger instead of Allaah, and ask him for support, and sing qaseedahs (odes) of shirk praising him, like Qaseedat al-Burdah etc. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade going to extremes in praising him, as he said: “Do not extol as the Christians extolled the son of Maryam. For I am just His slave, so say, the slave of Allaah and His Messenger” (narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4/142, no. 3445; al-Fath, 6/551), i.e., do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians exaggerated in praising the Messiah and venerated him until they worshipped him instead of Allaah. Allaah forbade them to do that when he said (interpretation of the meaning):

“O people of the Scripture (Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allaah aught but the truth. The Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allaah and His Word, (“Be!” — and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Rooh) created by Him”

[al-Nisaa’ 4:171]

Our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade us to exaggerate concerning him lest the same thing happen to us as happened to them, so he said: “Beware of exaggeration, for those who came before you were destroyed because of exaggeration” (narrated by al-Nasaa’i, 5/268; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan al-Nasaa’i, no. 2863).

4 – Observing the innovation of the Prophet’s birthday opens the door to other kinds of bid’ah and being distracted by them from the Sunnah. Hence you find that the innovators are very active when it comes to bid’ah and very lazy when it comes to the Sunnah; they hate it and regard those who follow it as enemies, until their entire religion is innovated anniversaries and Mawlids. They have split into various groups, each of which commemorates the anniversary of its imaam’s birth, such as the births of al-Badawi, Ibn ‘Arabi, al-Dasooqi and al-Shaadhili. No sooner do they end the celebration of one birthday but they start the celebration of another. This results in exaggeration concerning these dead people and others, and in calling upon them instead of Allaah, believing that they can bring benefit and cause harm, until they deviate from the religion of Allaah and go back to the religion of the people of the Jaahiliyyah of whom Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And they worship besides Allaah things that harm them not, nor profit them, and they say: ‘These are our intercessors with Allaah’”

[Yoonus 10:18]

“And those who take Awliyaa’ (protectors, helpers, lords, gods) besides Him (say): ‘We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allaah’”

[al-Zumar 39:3]

Discussing the specious arguments of those who celebrate the Mawlid

Those who think that this bid’ah should be continued produce specious arguments which are flimsier than a spider’s web. These specious arguments may be dealt with as follows:

1 – Their claim that this is veneration of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him):

The response to that is that the way to venerate him is to obey him, do as he commanded and avoid that which he forbade, and to love him; he is not to be venerated through innovations, myths and sins. Celebrating his birthday is of this blameworthy type because it is a sin. The people who venerated the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) the most were the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them), as ‘Urwah ibn Mas’ood said to Quraysh: “O people, by Allaah I have visited kings. I went to Caesar, Chosroes and the Negus, but by Allaah I never saw a king whose companions venerated him as much as the companions of Muhammad venerated Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). By Allaah, whenever he spat it never fell on the ground, it fell into into the hand of one his companions, then they wiped their faces and skins with it. If he instructed them to do something, they would hasten to do as he commanded. When he did wudoo’, they would almost fight over his water. When he spoke they would lower their voices in his presence; and they did not stare at him out of respect for him.” (al-Bukhaari, 3/178, no. 2731, 2732; al-Fath, 5/388). Yet despite this level of veneration, they never took the day of his birth as an ‘Eid (festival). If that had been prescribed in Islam they would not have neglected to do that.

2 – Using as evidence the fact that many people in many countries do this.

The response to that is that evidence consists of that which is proven from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and what is proven from the Prophet is that innovations are forbidden in general, and this is an innovation. What people do, if it goes against the evidence (daleel), does not prove anything, even if many of them do it.

“And if you obey most of those on the earth, they will mislead you far away from Allaah’s path”

[al-An’aam 6:116 – interpretation of the meaning]

Nevertheless, in every age, praise be to Allaah, there have always been those who denounce this bid’ah and state clearly that it is false. Those who persist in following it after the truth had been explained to them have no proof.

Among those who denounced the celebration of this occasion was Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah, in Iqtidaa’ al-Siraat al-Mustaqeem; Imaam al-Shaatibi in al-‘I’tisaam; Ibn al-Haaj in al-Madkhil; Shaykh Taaj al-Deen ‘Ali ibn ‘Umar al-Lakhami who wrote an entire book denouncing it; Shaykh Muhammad Basheer al-Sahsawaani al-Hindi in his book Siyaanah al-Insaan; al-Sayyid Muhammad Rasheed Ridaa wrote a separate essay on this topic; Shaykh Muhammad ibn Ibraaheem Aal al-Shaykh wrote a separate essay on it; Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz; and others who are still writing and denouncing this bid’ah every year in the pages of newspapers and magazines, at the time when this bid’ah is being done.

3 – They say that by celebrating the Mawlid they are keeping the memory of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) alive.

The answer to that is that the memory of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is constantly kept alive by the Muslim, such as when his name (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is mentioned in the adhaan and iqaamah and in khutbahs, and every time the Muslim recites the Shahaadatayn after doing wudoo’ and in the prayers, and every time he sends blessings upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in his prayers and when he is mentioned, and every time the Muslim does a waajib (obligatory) or mustahabb (recommended) action that was prescribed by the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). In all of these ways (the Muslim) remembers him and the reward equivalent to the reward of the one who does that action goes back to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Thus the Muslim constantly keeps the memory of the Messenger alive and has a connection with him night and day throughout his life through that which Allaah has prescribed, not only on the day of the Mawlid and things which are bid’ah and go against the Sunnah, for that puts one at a distance from the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and the Messenger will disown him because of that.

The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has no need of this innovated celebration, because Allaah has already bestowed veneration and respect upon him, as He says:

“and raised high your fame”

[al-Sharh 94:4]

For Allaah is not mentioned in the adhaan, iqaamah or khutbah, but the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is mentioned after Him; this is sufficient veneration, love and renewal of his memory, ad sufficient encouragement to follow him.

Allaah did not refer to the birth of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in the Qur’aan, rather He referred to his Mission, and says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Indeed, Allaah conferred a great favour on the believers when He sent among them a Messenger (Muhammad) from among themselves”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:124]

“He it is Who sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger (Muhammad) from among themselves”

[al-Jumu’ah 64:2]

4 – They may say that the celebration of the Prophet’s birthday was introduced by a knowledgeable and just king who intended thereby to draw closer to Allaah.

Our response to that is that bid’ah is not acceptable, no matter who does it. A good intention does not justify a bad deed and even if a person died as a knowledgeable and righteous person, this does not mean that he was infallible.

5 – They say that celebrating the mawlid comes under the heading of bid’ah hasanah (“good innovation”) because it is based on giving thanks to Allaah for the Prophet!

Our response to that is that there is nothing good in innovation. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever innovates anything in this matter of ours (i.e., Islam), that is not part of it will have it rejected.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 2697; al-Fath, 5/355). And he said, “Every innovation is a going astray” (narrated by Ahmad, 4/126; al-Tirmidhi, no. 2676). The ruling on innovations is that they are all misguidance, but this specious argument suggests that not every bid’ah is a going astray, rather there are good innovations.

Al-Haafiz ibn Rajab said in Sharh al-Arba’een: “The words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), ‘every innovation is a going astray’ is a concise but comprehensive comment which includes everything; it is one of the most important principles of religion. It is like his words ‘Whoever innovates anything in this matter of ours (i.e., Islam), that is not part of it will have it rejected.’ (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3/167, no. 2697; al-Fath, 5/355). Whoever innovates anything and attributes it to Islam when it has no basis in the religion, this is a going astray and is nothing to do with Islam, whether that has to do with matters of belief (‘aqeedah) or outward and inward words and deeds.”

(Jaami’ al-‘Uloom wa’l-Hakam, p. 233)

These people have no proof that there is any such thing as a “good innovation” apart from the words of ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) concerning Taraaweeh prayers, “What a good innovation this is.” (Saheeh al-Bukhaari, 2/252, no. 2010 mu’allaqan; al-Fath 4/294).

They also said that things were innovated which were not denounced by the salaf, such as compiling the Qur’aan into one volume and writing and compiling the hadeeth.

The response to that is that these matters had a basis in Islam, so they were not newly-invented.

‘Umar said: “What a good bid’ah” meaning innovation in the linguistic sense, not in the shar’i sense. Whatever has a basis in Islam, if it is described as an innovation, is an innovation in the linguistic sense, not in the shar’i sense, because innovation in the shar’i sense means that which has no basis in Islam.

Compiling the Qur’aan into one book has a basis in Islam, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had commanded that the Qur’aan be written down, but it was scattered, so the Sahaabah compiled it in one volume so as so protect and preserve it.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) led his companions in praying Taraaweeh for a while, then he stopped doing that, lest that become obligatory on them. The Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) continued to pray it separately during the life of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and after his death, until ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with them) gathered them behind one imaam as they used to pray behind the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). This was not an innovation introduced into the religion.

Writing down the hadeeth also has a basis in Islam. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) ordered that some ahaadeeth should be written down for some of his companions when they asked him for that. In general terms writing it down during his lifetime was not allowed, for fear that the Qur’aan might be mixed with things that were not part of it. When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) died, this fear was no longer a factor, because the Qur’aan had been completed and arranged in order before he died. The Muslims compiled the Sunnah after that in order to preserve it and keep it from being lost. May Allaah reward them with good on behalf of Islam and the Muslims, because they preserved the Book of their Lord and the Sunnah of their Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) from being lost or being tampered with.

We may also say to them: why was this act of thanksgiving, as they call it, not done by the best generations, the Sahaabah, Taabi’een and followers of the Taabi’een, who loved the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) most and who were most keen to do good and give thanks? Are those who introduced the innovation of the Mawlid more rightly-guided than them? Do they give more thanks to Allaah? Definitely not!

6 – They may say that celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is indicative of their love for him; this is one way of showing that, and showing love of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is prescribed in Islam!

The answer to that is that undoubtedly loving the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is obligatory for every Muslim; he should love him more than he loves himself, his child, his father and all the people – may my father and mother be sacrificed for him – but that does not mean that we should introduce innovations for doing so that have not been prescribed for us. Loving him dictates that we should obey him and follow him, for that is one of the greatest manifestations of love, as it is said:

“If your love is sincere then obey him; for the lover obeys the one whom he loves.”

Loving the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) implies keeping his Sunnah alive, adhering firmly to it, and avoiding words and deeds that go against it. Undoubtedly everything that goes against his Sunnah is a reprehensible innovation (bid’ah) and a manifest act of disobedience. That includes celebrating his birthday and other kinds of bid’ah. A good intention does not mean that it is permissible to introduce innovations into the religion. Islam is based on two things, purity of intention and following [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)]. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Yes, but whoever submits his face (himself) to Allaah (i.e. follows Allaah’s religion of Islamic Monotheism) and he is a Muhsin (a doer of good) then his reward is with his Lord (Allaah), on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve”

[al-Baqarah 2:112]

Submitting one’s face to Allaah means being sincere towards Allaah, and doing good means following the Messenger and implementing the Sunnah.

7 – Another of their specious arguments is when they say that by celebrating the Mawlid and reading the biography of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) on this occasion, they are encouraging people to follow his example!

We say to them that reading the biography of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and following his example are required of the Muslim all the time, all year long and throughout his life. Singling out a specific day for that with no evidence for doing so is an innovation, and every innovation is a going astray.” (Narrated by Ahmad, 4/164; al-Tirmidhi, 2676). Bid’ah does not bear any fruit but evil and it leads to a person distancing himself from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

In conclusion, celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), whatever form it takes, is a reprehensible innovation. The Muslims should put a stop to this and other kinds of bid’ah, and occupy themselves with reviving and adhering to the Sunnah. They should not be deceived by those who promote and defend this bid’ah, for these types of people are more interested in keeping innovations alive than in reviving the Sunnah; they may not even care about the Sunnah at all. Whoever is like this, it is not permissible to imitate him or follow his example, even if the majority of people are like this. Rather we should follow the example of those who follow the path of the Sunnah, among the righteous salaf and their followers, even if they are few. Truth is not measured by the men who speak it, rather men are measured by the truth.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever among you lives (for a long time) will see many differences. I urge you to follow my Sunnah and the way of the rightly-guided khaleefahs who come after me. Hold on to it firmly. Beware of newly-invented matters, for every innovation is a going astray.” (Narrated by Ahmad, 4/126; al-Tirmidhi no. 2676). So the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) explained to us in this hadeeth what we should do when there are differences of opinion, just as he explained that everything that goes against his Sunnah, be it words or deeds, is a bid’ah, and every bid’ah is a going astray.

If we see that there is no basis for celebrating the birthday of the Prophet, whether in the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or in the way of the rightly-guided khaleefahs, then it is one of the newly-invented matters, one of the bid’ahs which lead people astray. This principle is what is implied by this hadeeth and is what is indicated by the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allaah and His Messenger, if you believe in Allaah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination”

[al-Nisaa’ 4:59]

Referring to Allaah means referring to His Book, and referring to the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) means referring to his Sunnah after he has passed away. The Qur’aan and Sunnah are the reference point in cases of dispute. Where in the Qur’aan or Sunnah does it indicate that it is prescribed in Islam to celebrate the Prophet’s birthday? Whoever does that or thinks that it is good must repent to Allaah from this and from other kinds of bid’ah. This is the attitude of the Muslim who is seeking the truth. But whoever is too stubborn and arrogant after proof has been established, then his reckoning will be with his Lord.

We ask Allaah to help us adhere to His Book and the Sunnah of His Messenger until the Day when we will meet Him. May Allaah grant blessings and peace to our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions.

Huqooq al-Nabi (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) bayna al-Ijlaal wa’l-Ikhlaal, p. 139

Shaykh Dr. Saalih ibn Fawzaan al-Fawzaan

Member of the Committee of Senior Scholars, Saudi Arabia.
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Dear Fundamental Sahab,

Assalam-o-Alaikum, Allah aap ko bhi aur ham sab ko bhi Noor-e-Hidayat ataa Faramey Aameen.

Aap ki yeh longest post poori naa parh paai k it was so difficult for me to understand and read as it is in english aur wo bhi Mushkil tareen.

Well, what I understood by reading few paragraphs is:

aap ki es taweel post ka maqsad yeh kehna hai k Huzoor Nabi Pak Sallal laho alaihe wasallam ka birthday na manaya jaye, Islaam me es ki koi Gunjaesh nahi aur Allah ki taraf se Mumane`at hai es ki............ am I right???????

if yes, then let me say some thing, I hope you won't mind if I use a word extremist for you as it is in my view jis k liye me maazrat khawah hoon agar aap ki dil aazaari ho.

Bhai, Kalma tayyaba Laa Ilaha Illal laho Mohammadur Rasool Allah means k Allah aik hai aur Mohammad SAW Allah k Rasool hain, thats what I believe and all Muslim believe, now jahan tak baat aati hai what is in Quran Paak, what is Sunnah aur how to spend a life.

I would say and I really mean it k meri Maaloomaat shayad aap ki tarah wasee naa hongi, Na hi me ne Kalam Pak Tarjumey k sath Parha hai siwaye few Surah's k Na hi ahaadees ka full Khazana meri memory me fit hai Lekin kuchh batain kehna chahoon gi.

Hamarey yahan aik Eid Milad un Nabi SAW ki post create karney per aap ne itna kuchh chaap diya, bina sochey samjhey Islamic topics per behas karna aur kuchh chhaapna naa sirf khud gunah gar hona bal k doosron k aqaaed kharab kar k unhe bhi gunahgar karna hai aur es tarah kehney wala dugney gunah ka murtakib bhi ho sakta hai, Allah hame muaaf farmaye Aameen.

Beshak Islaam me Laho wo Luwaab ki Mumaane`at hai, aur Awliya Allah ko follow na karney ka hukam hoga, lekin I think k samajh samajh ka farq hota hai, Naam Nihaad molvi ghalat Tableegue se logon k dimagh saaf kar k samajhtey hain k ham achha kar rahey hain.

Agar koii Eid Milad-un-Nabi SAW manata hai that doesn't mean k wo music masti kar raha hai, Agar uus raat Quran Khuwani ki jaati hai, Naatain parhi jati hain, logon me sweets banti jati hain yaa Sahib-e-Haisiyat es se bhi barh kar kartey hain k Langer jaari kartey hain tou merey bhai, es me kia burai hai????

Kia Kalam Allah parhna gunah hai? yaa Huzoor Nabi Pak SAW per durood Pak parhna bura hai??? yaa apni khushi k izhaar me ghareebon ko khana khilana mana hai? aisa agar kahin likha howa hai tou batayen.

akser Molvi Hazraat ko me ne aisa kehtey suna hai k AanHazrat SAW ka birthday nahi manana chahiye, lekin aik aam Insaan ko birthday manatey dekh k kabhi mana nahi kartey bal k dat kar cake khaney k liye Tashreef le jatey hain.

Islaam hi ki baat kartey hain tou kiyun bhool jatey hain k shadi aur Valima me khaney ki itni bey hurmati kiyun ki jati hai aur 100, 100 dishes kiyun rakhi jati hain? khud aap ki family ki shadiyun me bhi dekha hi hoga aap ne, Kia Hazrat Ali R.A.T.A ka Valima nahi pata k kitna saada tha? Aap R.A ne mehmanon ko Shehad k piyaley pilaye they.

Jahan tak baat Awliya ki hai, Me hoon Hazrat Ghous-ul-Azam Sheikh Syed Abdul Qadir Mohayyuddin Jilaani R.A ki Mureedni that doesn't mean k me Allah k aagey sir na jhuka kar uun k aagey sir jhukati hoon yaa Allah se naa maang kar uun se Maangti hoon, Wo bhi tou Allah se hi Maangtey they aur wo bhi tou Allah hi ko Maabood Maantey they, unhon ne kisi se nahi farmaye k meri Ibaadat karo, Naozubillah.

Jahan tak me samajhti hoon, Allah ne yahi farmaya hai k awliya ko follow na karo means k aisa na ho k insaan jesey buton ko poojta tha waisey awliya ko poojney lagey.

Well, Eid Milad-un-Nabi SAW mana kar Yaa GIyaarwheen Shareef ki Niyaz dila kar mera dil Masroor hota hai aur me Allah ki shukar guzar hoon es k liye tou agar koi extremist will start trying to mess up with my aqaaed, I would just say k Allah Naik Hidayat de.

Janab Fundamental Sahab, agar tou aap ki post ka matlab wo nahi tha jo k me samjhi aur jis k liye me ne yeh sab likha tou me again Maazrat khwa hoon.

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Dheerey Dheerey Machal Oooooo Jia beQaraar koi Aaya haiiii koi aaya haiiiii......... Nahi aaya naa koi 
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ek to aap sab ko bhi mubarak but wo 12 yaa 8 yaa 17 rabi ul awwal ko nahi hoti?? jahan tak riwayaat k hisab se hai kher NABI KA JASHAN TO INSAN SAAREE zindagi ek ek lamha bhi manaye tab bhi kam hai ....
sec fundemental bhai sahab k lie k baat jitni choti ho utna asar rakhti hai
aap S.A.W.W ki amad ka sb se ziada dukh shetan ko or uske chelon ko hi tha or aap apni baat se khud ye sabit karrahe k aap kis k taqleed balke andhi taqleed karahe hain
quran pak ki ayaten yazeed bhi sunaya karta tha hazarat IMAM HUSSAIN R.A KO shaheed kar .k so aap bhi sunai to sahi sabit nahi hosakte munafiq ki nishani hai k wo quran ki ayaat ko apne maqsad k matlub nikal k istamaal karta hai.....
kher hm to manaige kisi ka kuch bhi jai DAMN CARE!!!!

Allah mujhe mazeed hidayat de aameen!!!
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Dheerey Dheerey Machal Oooooo Jia beQaraar koi Aaya haiiii koi aaya haiiiii......... Nahi aaya naa koi 
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Assalam-o-Alaikum, Allah aap ko bhi aur ham sab ko bhi Noor-e-Hidayat ataa Faramey Aameen.

Wa Alaykum Assalam Wa Rahmatullah Wa Barkatuhu Aameen.

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Aap ki yeh longest post poori naa parh paai k it was so difficult for me to understand and read as it is in english aur wo bhi Mushkil tareen.

in sha Allaah main apkay liye iss article ka Urdu translation post karta hon kuch dair baad.

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aap ki es taweel post ka maqsad yeh kehna hai k Huzoor Nabi Pak Sallal laho alaihe wasallam ka birthday na manaya jaye, Islaam me es ki koi Gunjaesh nahi aur Allah ki taraf se Mumane`at hai es ki............ am I right???????

Main ne nahin kaha hai aisa kuch bhe Islaam kehta hai aisa ke jo ammal Nabi kareem sallallahu alayhi wa sallam say sabit nahin woh bidat hai aur har bidat gumraahi hai.

yeh rahi hades main apkay liye paish kar deta hon jahan par bidat ke liye tambee ki gayi hai.

ور حديث شريف ميں رسول كريم صلى اللہ عليہ وسلم كا فرمان ہے:

" بلا شبہ سب سے سچى بات اللہ تعالى كى كتاب ہے، اور سب سے بہتر ہدايت و راہ محمد صلى اللہ عليہ وسلم كى ہے، اور سب سے برے امور اس دين ميں بدعات كى ايجاد ہے"

اور ايك دوسرى حديث ميں نبى كريم صلى اللہ عليہ وسلم نے فرمايا:

" جس نے بھى ہمارے اس دين ميں كوئى ايسا كام ايجاد كيا جو اس ميں سے نہيں تو وہ كام مردود ہے"

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اور مسلم شريف ميں روايت ميں ہے كہ:

" جس نے بھى كوئى ايسا عمل كيا جس پر ہمارا حكم نہيں تو وہ عمل مردود ہے"


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if yes, then let me say some thing, I hope you won't mind if I use a word extremist for you as it is in my view jis k liye me maazrat khawah hoon agar aap ki dil aazaari ho.

nahin mere koi dil aazaari nahin hoi apkay iss extremist lafuz karnay say mujhay tou khushi hoi ke Allaah ke Rasool sallallahu alayhi wa sallam ki taleemat aur Sunnah ke taraf dawat dene say ager banda extremist ho jata hai tou main fakhir mehsoos karta hon iss laqub pe jo apnay diya. Jazzakum 'Allaahu khyr.
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Bhai, Kalma tayyaba Laa Ilaha Illal laho Mohammadur Rasool Allah means k Allah aik hai aur Mohammad SAW Allah k Rasool hain, thats what I believe and all Muslim believe, now jahan tak baat aati hai what is in Quran Paak, what is Sunnah aur how to spend a life.

I would say and I really mean it k meri Maaloomaat shayad aap ki tarah wasee naa hongi, Na hi me ne Kalam Pak Tarjumey k sath Parha hai siwaye few Surah's k Na hi ahaadees ka full Khazana meri memory me fit hai Lekin kuchh batain kehna chahoon gi.

Ji ager apki maloomat kam hai tou aap kay maloomat main izafa kar detay hain ap tehqeeq karain aur Deen Islaam ke baray main padhain Quran padhain aur Ahadees padhain aur apnay Imaan ko kaamil banayein.

aur jab aap ilm seekhain gayi Quran aur ahadees ka mutaliyah karain gi tou in sha Allaah apkay ilm main izafa hoga un rasoomat ke baray main jo ke bidat hain jin ke mamaniyat saaf ahadeeth say ki gayi hai jo upper main ne apke liye paish kardi hai Urdu translation main.
aur jahan tak Kalma padhnay ka sawal hai tou kalmay pe ikhlaas ke sath ammal pehra he hona asal momin ki pechan hoti hai, Jo cheez Nabi kareem sallallahu alayhi wa salam de usko le lena chahye aur jiss say Ap Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam rok dain us say ruk jana jaye.

aur Hazoor karem sallallahu alayhi wa sallam say aagay nahin badna chahye. yeh he momin ki shaan hoti hai

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Hamarey yahan aik Eid Milad un Nabi SAW ki post create karney per aap ne itna kuchh chaap diya, bina sochey samjhey Islamic topics per behas karna aur kuchh chhaapna naa sirf khud gunah gar hona bal k doosron k aqaaed kharab kar k unhe bhi gunahgar karna hai aur es tarah kehney wala dugney gunah ka murtakib bhi ho sakta hai, Allah hame muaaf farmaye Aameen.

Main ne iss topic pe iss liye reply kiya hai ke mujhay apna kaam karna tha jo mujhay hukam diya gaya hai aur aisay he har musalman ko hukam diya gaya hai ke naiki ka hukam karo aur buraayi say roko

aur hazoor kareem sallallahu alayhi wa sallam say bidat ke baray main wazih mamaniyat aayi hai aur jo main ne article post ki hai woh kissi imposter molvi ki fatwa nahin hai Quran aur Ahadees ke dalail aur Saudi arab ke jaleel ul qadr ulama Shaykh Salih al-Fawzaan ka fatwa aur Saudi Arab ke fatwa commintee ka source diya howa hai shayad English honay ki wajja say apko samjhe nahin aya chalo main iss ko Urdu main bhe post kar deta hon kuch dair main apkay liye in sha Allaah.
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Beshak Islaam me Laho wo Luwaab ki Mumaane`at hai, aur Awliya Allah ko follow na karney ka hukam hoga, lekin I think k samajh samajh ka farq hota hai, Naam Nihaad molvi ghalat Tableegue se logon k dimagh saaf kar k samajhtey hain k ham achha kar rahey hain.

Bilkul Sharee’ah main luwho aur luwaab mana hai aur uski koi ghunjaaish nahin. Par AlhamDolillah Islaam main mominon ki raah pe chalnay ka kaha gaya hai Awliyah ‘Allaah ki raah pe chalnay ko kaha gaya hai.
Aur Awliyyah ‘Allaah ki raah wohi hai jo Nabi kareem sallallahu alayhi wa sallam unko seekha gaye Awliyah ‘Allaah bidat say ijtanaab kartay hain aur Sunnah pe ammal pehra aur Sunnah ki taraf dawat dete hain.
Ho sakta hai samjhe samjhe ka farak ho par Islaam ki teaching aik he hai ager insaan Hazoor sallallahu alayhi wa sallam ko follow karay aur Sahaba kiraam RadiyAllaahu anhu ki manhaj aur faham pe chalay tou in sha Allaah samjhe main koi ikhtalaaf nahin aayegi…

Ager jo insaan apni mantaq aur philosophy deen main dalayga aur mominon ki raah chor kar apna raah create karayga tou zahir he baat hai phir uski samjhe usko buraayi aur ghalat raastay ke taraf le jayegi.

Bilkul ulmaa’ e Suh hamesha ghalat taweel kar ke ghalat aqaaid aur masaail gadh ke logon ko asal Sunnah say door kartay hain Allaah aisay Ulmaa’ e Suh say ummah ko bachayay… aur humhain bhe chahye ke hum ilm hasil karain Quran aur hadees ki kissi ko blindly follow na karain.

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Agar koii Eid Milad-un-Nabi SAW manata hai that doesn't mean k wo music masti kar raha hai, Agar uus raat Quran Khuwani ki jaati hai, Naatain parhi jati hain, logon me sweets banti jati hain yaa Sahib-e-Haisiyat es se bhi barh kar kartey hain k Langer jaari kartey hain tou merey bhai, es me kia burai hai????

Kia Kalam Allah parhna gunah hai? yaa Huzoor Nabi Pak SAW per durood Pak parhna bura hai??? yaa apni khushi k izhaar me ghareebon ko khana khilana mana hai? aisa agar kahin likha howa hai tou batayen.
Bilkul Eid Milaad un nabwi manana sahih nahin hai Islaam ki sharee’h main eid just 2 he hain aur kissi bhe insaan ko yeh haqq hasil nahin ke woh Allaah ki Deen main tabdeeli karay.

Chahye music ya Naat Khuwani yah Quraan khuwani aik cheez Islaam main hai he nahin tou zahir he baat hai woh cheez gumrahi hai phir chahye dekhnay main woh kitni he pyaari aur khoubsurat kyun na lagay.

Ji aisa bhut jagah likha hai main apkay sath share karta hon aik waqiyah.


عمرو بن یییg اپنے والد کے حوالے سے اپنے دادا کا باyن نقل کرتے ہںo ایک مرتبہ ہم صبح کی نماز سے پہلے حضرت عبداللہ بن مسعود کے دروازے کے پاس بٹھےا ہوئے تھے جب عبداللہ باہر تشریف لاتے تو ہم ان کے ساتھ چلتے ہوئے مسجد تک آیا کرتے تھے اسی دوران حضرت ابوموسی اشعری وہاں تشریف لے آئے اور دریافت کال کاد حضرت ابوعبدالرحمن (حضرت عبداللہ بن مسعود) باہر تشریف لائے۔ ہم نے جواب دیا نہںآ تو حضرت ابوموسی ہمارے ساتھ بیٹھ گئے یہاں تک کہ حضرت عبداللہ بن مسعود باہر تشریف لائے جب وہ آئے تو ہم سب اٹھ کران کے پاس آگئے حضرت ابوموسی نے ان سے کہا اے ابوعبدالرحمن آج مںش نے مسجد مںب ایک اییپ جماعت دییھر ہے جو مجھے پسند نہں آئی اور مرہا مقصد ہر طرح کی حمد اللہ کے لےئ مخصوص ہے صرف نییپ ہے۔ حضرت عبداللہ بن مسعود نے دریافت کاآ وہ کاا بات ہے حضرت ابوموسی نے جواب دیاشام تک آپ خود ہی دیکھ لںے گے۔ حضرت ابوموسی باتن کرتے ہںا مںا نے مسجد مںی کچھ لوگوں کو دیکھا کہ وہ حلقے بنا کر بٹھے ہوئے ہںے اور نماز کا انتظار کر رہے ہںی ان مںئ سے ہر ایک حلقے مںم ایک شخص ہے جس کے سامنے کنکریاں موجود ہںٹ اور وہ شخص یہ کہتا ہے سو مرتبہ اللہ اکبر پڑھو۔ تو لوگ سو مرتبہ اللہ اکبر پڑھتے ہںا۔ پھر وہ شخص کہتا ہے سو مرتبہ لاالہ الا اللہ پڑھو تو لوگ سو مرتبہ یہ پڑھتے ہںر پھر وہ شخص کہتا ہے سومرتبہ سبحان اللہ پڑھو تو لوگ سبحان اللہ پڑھتے ہں ۔ حضرت عبداللہ بن مسعود نے ان سے دریافت کاے آپ نے ان سے کا کہا۔ حضرت ابوموسی اشعری نے جواب دیا مں نے آپ کی رائے کا انتظار کرتے ہوئے ان سے کچھ نہں کہا۔ حضرت عبداللہ بن مسعود نے ارشاد فرمایا آپ نے انہںپ یہ کواں نہںئ کہا کہ وہ اپنے گناہ شمار کریں اور آپ نے انہںد ضمانت کوتں نہںے دی کہ ان کی ناڑھ ں ضائع نہںں ہوں گی۔ (راوی کا باپن کرتے ہںں) پھر حضرت عبداللہ بن مسعود چل پڑے ان کے ہمراہ ہم بھی چل پڑے یہاں تک کہ حضرت عبداللہ ان حلقوں مںن سے ایک حلقے کے پاس تشریف لائے اور ان کے پاس کھڑے ہو کر ارشاد فرمایا یہ مںق تمہںس کای کرتے ہوئے دیکھ رہاہوں انہوں نے جواب دیا اے ابوعبدالرحمن یہ کنکریان ہںں جن پر ہم لا الہ الا اللہ اور سبحان اللہ گن کر پڑھ رہے ہںی حضرت عبداللہ نے ارشاد فرمایا تم اپنے گناہوں کو گنو مںا اس بات کی ضمانت دیتا ہوں کہ تمہاری نوحض ں مںا سے کوئی چزو ضائع نہںب ہوگی۔ اے حضرت محمد صلی اللہ علہا وسلم کی امت تمہارا ستااناس ہو تم کتنی تز ی سے ہلاکت کی طرف جا رہے ہو یہ تمہارے نبی اکرم صلی اللہ علہ وسلم کے صحابہ تمہارے درمامن بکثرت تعداد مںم موجود ہںح اور یہ نبی اکرم صلی اللہ علہی وسلم کے کپڑے ہںے جو ابھی پرانے نہںم ہوئے اور یہ نبی صلی اللہ علہی وسلم کے برتن ہںا جو ابھی ٹوٹے نہںٹ ہںں اس ذات کی قسم جس کے دست قدرت مںت مرںی جان ہے تم ایسے طریقے پر ہو جو نبی صلی اللہ علہ وسلم کے طریقے سے زیادہ ہدایت یافتہ ہے؟ یا پھر تم گمراہی کا دروازہ کھولنا چاہتے ہو۔ لوگوں نے عرض کی اللہ کی قسم اے ابوعبدالرحمن ہمارا ارادہ صرف نیک ہے ۔ حضرت عبداللہ نے ارشاد فرمایا کتنے نیے کے خواہش مند ایسے ہںع جو نیاب نہں کرتے نبی اکرم صلی اللہ علہ وسلم نے یہ بات ارشاد فرمائی ہے کہ کچھ لوگ قرآن پڑھںش گے لکنس وہ قرآن ان کے حلقوں سے نچے نہںہ اترے گا اور اللہ کی قسم مجھے نہںف معلوم ہوسکتا ہے ان مںر سے اکثریت تم لوگوں کی ہو۔ پھر حضرت عبداللہ ان کے پاس سے اٹھ کر آگئے۔ عمرو بن سلمہ باےن کرتے ہںم ہم نے اس بات کا جائزہ لاک ان حلقوں سے تعلق رکھنے والے عام افراد وہ تھے جنہوں نے نہروان کی جنت مں خوارج کے ساتھ مل کر ہمارے ساتھ مقابلہ کال۔
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Ab iss sahih al isnaad athar ko padhain tou apko iss main jawab mil jayega iss main kuch log dhikr azkaar rahay the laykan us dhikr ko Abdullah ibn masud radiyAllaahu anhu ne pasand nahin kiya wajja yeh thi ke yeh dhikr karnay ka tareeqah Nabi kareem Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam say sabit nahin thi… tou Abdullah Ibn Masud ne unko unkay Gunnah ginay ko kaha….

isshe tarah apkay sawal ka jawab apko mil gaya hai ke jaisay La Illah Ha ilallah afdhal dhikr hai sahih hadees say sabit hai phir bhe ager woh sahih tareqay say na padha jaye tab bhe bidat ho jati hai jaisay ke upper wale athar main Abdullah ibn masud radiyAllaahu anhu ne tambee ki logon ko.
Isshe tarah ager Quraan khuwani iss tarah ki jaye jiss tarah Sabit nahin tou zahir he baat hai us say gunnah hoga.
Aur Ajkal ke naat khuwani main tou ziyada tar shirk he hota hai Allaah subhanu wa tala ke sifaat gairullah ke taraf mansub kiye jate hain uski tou waisay bhe ghunjaaish nahin.

Aur Khanna already bidat ho ja raha hai kyun ke jo din ke nisbat say pakaya ja raha hai woh already sabit nahin tou woh khanna pakana kahan say mashroob howa.?

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akser Molvi Hazraat ko me ne aisa kehtey suna hai k AanHazrat SAW ka birthday nahi manana chahiye, lekin aik aam Insaan ko birthday manatey dekh k kabhi mana nahi kartey bal k dat kar cake khaney k liye Tashreef le jatey hain.

Islaam hi ki baat kartey hain tou kiyun bhool jatey hain k shadi aur Valima me khaney ki itni bey hurmati kiyun ki jati hai aur 100, 100 dishes kiyun rakhi jati hain? khud aap ki family ki shadiyun me bhi dekha hi hoga aap ne, Kia Hazrat Ali R.A.T.A ka Valima nahi pata k kitna saada tha? Aap R.A ne mehmanon ko Shehad k piyaley pilaye they.
Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jammah ke tamam aimah aur muhaditheen ka itafaaq hai ke bidat gumraahi hai, aur har door main milaad jaisi bidat say ulamaa’ e haqq ne mana kiya hai aur uskay khilaaf Quran aur ahadees say dalail de kar samjhaya hai.

Baqi rahi woh molvi hazraat jo dosron ko kehte hain par khud ammal nahin kartay unko ulmaa’ e suh kaha jata hai Allaah unko hidayat de aur aisay molviyon ki sharr say bachaye aameen.

Rahi baat walimay ki tou woh tou Nabi kareem sallallahu alayhi wa sallam ki Sunnah say sabit hai karna uski misaal ap yahan nahin de sakte.
Baqi rahi israaf karna tou woh sahih nahin hai Allaah logon ko hidaayat de jo aisa bey-jaa’ israaf kartay hain.

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Jahan tak baat Awliya ki hai, Me hoon Hazrat Ghous-ul-Azam Sheikh Syed Abdul Qadir Mohayyuddin Jilaani R.A ki Mureedni that doesn't mean k me Allah k aagey sir na jhuka kar uun k aagey sir jhukati hoon yaa Allah se naa maang kar uun se Maangti hoon, Wo bhi tou Allah se hi Maangtey they aur wo bhi tou Allah hi ko Maabood Maantey they, unhon ne kisi se nahi farmaye k meri Ibaadat karo, Naozubillah.

Jahan tak me samajhti hoon, Allah ne yahi farmaya hai k awliya ko follow na karo means k aisa na ho k insaan jesey buton ko poojta tha waisey awliya ko poojney lagey.

Well, Eid Milad-un-Nabi SAW mana kar Yaa GIyaarwheen Shareef ki Niyaz dila kar mera dil Masroor hota hai aur me Allah ki shukar guzar hoon es k liye tou agar koi extremist will start trying to mess up with my aqaaed, I would just say k Allah Naik Hidayat de.

Janab Fundamental Sahab, agar tou aap ki post ka matlab wo nahi tha jo k me samjhi aur jis k liye me ne yeh sab likha tou me again Maazrat khwa hoon.

Regards

Allaah subhanu wa tala ne mominon ki raah apnanay ko kaha hai Quran main aur woh raah Quraan aur Sunnah he hai uskay against Raah awliyyah ‘Allaah ki nahin hoti woh awliyaah shayateen ki hoti hai.

Baqi raha eid milaad ka tou eid islaam main 2 hain eid al fitr aur eid al adha… yeh tesri eid bidat hai aur har bidat gumraahi hai.
Aur Giyaarwein karna tou haram hai Quraan ke Ayah say jiss cheez main Allah kay siwah dosre ka naam pukra jaye woh haram hai…

In sha Allaah Quran aur Sunnah ki dawat apko extremism lagta hai tou theek hai hum yeh dawat detay rahain gay in sha Allaah.

Allaah hum sab ko deen ke taleem hasil karnay ke taufeeq de aur sahih samjhe Aameen.

Main upper wale article ki urdu translation post karonga kuch dair bad in sha Allaah.
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Kaash k es forum per Ignore ka button bhi hota tou me aap ko issi waqt Ignore me daal deti k wo Insaan jo Giyarhween shareef ki Niyaz ko Haram kahey wo es qaabil hi nahi k me uus se ham kalam hon.

Aap jesey log lakeer k faqeer ki tarah jo read kartey hain yaa apney asatiza se suntey hain bas peerhi der peerhi ussi ko dohratey rehtey hain, bina uus ko samjhey aur yahi aap kar rahey hain.

Merey Nazdeek Waseeley Allah ne banaye hain, aur I now know k aap waseela nahi maantey hongey

I believe in nazar niyaz I now know k aap nahi maantey hongey.

me apney aqaaed per chalti hoon, lekin aap trying to divert others to forcefully believe in what you believe chahey wo ghalat hi kiyun na ho, aap khud na janey kitney hi doston ko happpy birthday keh chukey hongey aur Jab baat Sarkar-e-do Aalam ki aati hai tou aap usey bid`at qaraar detey hain, Laanat ho Shaitaan Mardood per.

Merey Peer Jilaani, Hain Aaqa Mehboob-e-Subhani

Request to Forum Members: You all know k me dalael se behas nahi kar sakti hai, hai koi es forum per Jo Fundamental ko Jawab de sakey? Meri taraf se tou yeh aaj abhi issi waqt se ignore hain, I dont need to read him any more.
Dheerey Dheerey Machal Oooooo Jia beQaraar koi Aaya haiiii koi aaya haiiiii......... Nahi aaya naa koi 
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Fundamental ,

I dont know if you are an aalim or you have any such authority to tell people what is right and what is wrong. They are not kids , they can do their own research and follow what they want. Its between Allah and them. This is not a place for such discussions. Please choose a correct place , like in masjid or any other religious gathering.

Please refain from such comments. Furthermore , i request other members too , that please dont raise issue's which require very good knowledge about deen and islam. Its the job of Aalims.

Regards
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